and they're being used -- obviously the pipeline increased so snipers now in the career field than in the past, but officers don't receive all that much training on how to use snipers. why is that p why has that got to change? >> i'm not sure why it is. there was a sniper employment leader force at the army sniper school, and if it's not -- been cull main eight yet, it's about to be. it was going for about three years, a popular course, one week course where the officers would go, mostly to learn the familiarization with the weapons and sniper role, and then they would get to shoot the weapons and they love the course, but i think infantry officers probably maybe get a few hours of training within a curriculum, maybe to captain's career course, newer career course, and it's just not something that they do in the army or the marine corps. >> so they're learning the capability on the job when they arrive in theater. >> yes.